Carl has been many things in his lifetime but one thread runs through all of them, a deep well of trauma.

He holds a BA in Art and Theater from Eckerd College in St. Petersburg, FL.

Carl naturally gravitated toward entrepreneurship because he found the workaday world to be brain-numbingly boring.

Thankfully, Carl was raised in a time when ADHD kids weren’t drugged into normalcy, just given less sugar. As a result, he was free to develop a keen appreciation for change, exploration and creativity.

It’s these qualities, coupled with an unshakeable need to do good things with the talents he was given, that lead Carl to launch the TIC Training Center with Aric Rohner.

“You don’t have to be a therapist to be therapeutic” is a mantra around these parts and we rely on folks way smarter than us to take care of the good people who show up.